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Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:25 am
by TEKNIK
Why not just order 4500K leds instead of mixing them. Doesn't make sense to me unless you are mixing a different CRI or something with a 420nm pump

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:09 pm
by unkle_psycho
Marine2143 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:22 am
Aloha & Is 45% 6.5K + 45% 3.5K + 10% 660 red = about 4.6K? It looks like my friend in China is the new cheap 120w wanna be Valoya?
I do find their product interesting, I mean the whole company. If origlite shipped their gear with containers, to local distribution centers so half of the cost was not delivery, I think they would sell very well.

I do doubt they have put the type of research into their spectrum that Samsung has done, I would imagine that the whole logic approaching a product would be quite different if you were looking at it as an assembler, like origlite, or as an actual base manufacturer like samsung.

I was contacted by an american team who wanted to start manufacturing lights, and had a decent budget. All I could tell them was that the way I see it, the actual tech is in the hands of a few billion dollar companies, so we would be forced to improvise from the narrow spectrum of products they put out. It's like everyone was trying to make an original burger, while selecting from two different bun types and three different sauces. Once there is 1000 players its going to turn into a freak show, where actual quality would be a very difficult card to play.

I do find the origlight to be an interesting product and company, although the spectrum hardly tickles my interest in the way that Samsungs does. Price should be quite a central factor in their design philosophy, and I'm not sure how they can carry that through to the market without a strategy that includes logistics.

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:31 pm
by unkle_psycho
TEKNIK wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:25 am
Why not just order 4500K leds instead of mixing them. Doesn't make sense to me unless you are mixing a different CRI or something with a 420nm pump
Missed this in the morning. I totally agree that they have not really put too much thought into their product, I just like how ambitious they are for an alibaba company, and if they could get their products shipped cheaply they would be a winner in the super cheap side of the market, competing with mars hydro etc. They would even manage quite well against the lower range of 'better' white led, with their efficiency figures and minor tunability..

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:35 pm
by TEKNIK
It looks like junk to me
They can't even do the math correctly the specs say 2.05 micromouls per joule.
On the video they claim 216 micromouls @120W that's 1.8 micromouls per joule.

A single luminus devices COB 3k CRI 90 will out perform this light.
They also state they have UV in the spectrum and that is more BS.
I get a little pissed with lights that make stupid claims about performance as it doesn't perform well in real life then it makes the job of guys that do sell high performance products really difficult.

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:21 am
by Adam
I had a quote on these for £20 on 160 units.

anybody want to go halfers?

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:35 am
by unkle_psycho
Adam wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:21 am
I had a quote on these for £20 on 160 units.

anybody want to go halfers?
Thats 1 $ per strip more then digikey quoted me :D the MOQ should be 120pcs, if that helps you find a purchasing buddy

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:07 pm
by Adam
Yep digikey is a bit cheaper And only a 5 week lead time, apparently. :lol:

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:37 pm
by unkle_psycho
"only" 5 weeks? :lol:

Re: Samsung horticular linears

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:52 am
by Adam
ordered. Well see how they perform.