HomerPepsi wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:55 pm
Might as well wait for the eb gen 3's
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. I think those are the ones I am going to use for my veg room.
Good info on them being old tech diodes - is that verifiable?
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I think a very strong argument can be made in this regard, although a lot of nuance is naturally lost in such a straight forward approach.
With bridgelux I think the EB gen 2 and vestas might be slightly adjusted EB gen1 diodes, and in the case of samsung I read that the LM301b had the same performance as the older LM561C, they just clocked it at a lower current to get the performance figures to look better. Now the new samsung chip is the LM301B with the sulfur removed.
When a corporation deals in a market, they have to take into account many types of issues. Quality as a technical term gets a different definition in product design, production and marketing.
In product design quality means getting the right balance of available design features, your always sacrificing something for something else. Each component of the product is subject to the laws of diminishing returns, in general its not considered good design to make a shit product with one over-spec element that marketing can hype. So while the current white strips are budget technology, you only need to look at performance/$ to understand why they crushed the market. It's not hard to see what value they offer.
In production, quality means making the product as close to design standards as possible.
Finally its the marketing depts that muddle the whole picture, acting like their repackage is a revolution. If they just presented things as they are, there would be little to criticize, but I'm not sure consumer behavior makes that a viable strategy either.
As Teknik said, prices can jump up to 100x when you start exploring the bounds of whats available and physically possible. These products hardly make sense for commercial applications, where you need to balance things out, but as passionate hobbyists we certainly drool and dream of them.
So finally I guess it would be impossible to do good industrial design while being hyped up in some marketing bubble. Good industrial design is all about balancing out multiple variables into a package that makes sense. Functionality is key! It's not unusual to spot a person who sees the functionality of their light as social leverage, rather then anything to do with growing plants. They just need something to signal that they are better then the next guy. There is nothing wrong with that, and understanding your real motivation will help you achieve more of it.