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Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:42 pm
by LEDG
Any guesses from anyone as to what diodes the SX 324 board is made of?

Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:39 pm
by Jolly Green Giant
LEDG wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:42 pm
Any guesses from anyone as to what diodes the SX 324 board is made of?
a white diode that's going to do 3.0 umole/j?? 😄 lol I can't tell what they are..

Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:20 pm
by Humple
LEDG wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:41 pm
majorana wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:25 pm
LEDG wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:51 pm
The main appeal behind the Nichia seems to be the 90 CRI availability. Regarding the 480 chip board, I think its utility would really depend on its price. If it doesn't cost a whole ton more than a regular QB, you should be able to get some wicked efficiency by driving it quite low.

When comparing the same diode there's significant anecdotal evidence (that you too have shown!) that 90CRI is more efficient than 80, despite the lower efficacy (in terms of lumens per watt.) Using an entirely different diode, which to begin with already has lower efficacy, is putting out something entirely different. Perhaps 140lpw@90CRI would be more efficient (in terms of grams per watt) than a 180lpw@80CRI, but it would definitely be a challenge and remains to be proven. Apples to apples.

As for the 480 board, I agree that driving softer is always a good idea. But if the board itself will be more expensive (in $/W), and would also require a more expensive heatsink setup, I'm not sure where's the appeal any more.

But then again, I'm a hobbyist with a limited budget. If I could afford it, I'd pay the fairly modest premium HLG ask for (when compared to ordering from suppliers and going fully DIY) and save myself quite a bit of hassle. I know there are people out there who have different considerations / deeper pockets, who would probably find this crammed 480 board particularly appealing.

Yeah, it'd be difficult to pit different spectrums with different efficiencies against one another and make the comparison fair and equal.

As I say, I'm most eager to try the 480 board just to find out what sort of temperature and light output I get from it at, say, the same power as you'd run a QB288.
Can you share the dimensions of the QB480?

Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:10 am
by Tony
@LEDG
Could you give the dimensions of the QB96 also. And what is the parallel voltage of the board.

Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:46 am
by Maxxor
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Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:48 am
by LEDG
Humple wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:20 pm

Can you share the dimensions of the QB480?
Same profile as the QB288 and 304.

Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:49 am
by LEDG
Tony wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:10 am
@LEDG
Could you give the dimensions of the QB96 also. And what is the parallel voltage of the board.
22.5" x 2.5"

It's an 8Sx12P configuration, so voltage will be 23-24V and that'd put max current at 2.4A.

Re: A Sneak Peek at Some HLG QB Prototypes

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:35 am
by majorana
Jolly Green Giant wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:39 pm
a white diode that's going to do 3.0 umole/j?? 😄 lol I can't tell what they are..

I'm slowly reading my way thru SAG's lighting guide, but there is a mention, which isn't followed up on, on a new 3 uMol/J light. (He can be verbose, but there's plenty to learn.)